Do you know who I should talk to? At 06:42 AM 9/22/2002 -0400, you wrote: >you have not spoken to the right people. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Bear in SFO" <BearSFO at PacBell.NET> >To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> >Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2002 12:33 AM >Subject: Re: NFB Net goes linux! > > > >Let me assure you, ACB have no clue what they are doing with their linux >box either - at least when I call them and ask about their server, the >answer I got was "well, it just sits here" > >--David > >At 08:19 PM 9/21/2002 -0400, you wrote: > >Hi Darrell, > > > >That's very true, Darrell, but what I'm objecting to is that the > >original message in the thread stated that telnet and the BBS features > >of their system would no longer be available. This, I felt was short > >changing some of their members, and I thought it was too bad. I > >wanted the techies to be more knowledgeable so that their members > >wouldn't have to give up telnet or BBS access. > > > ><smile> No, I wasn't suggesting that the end users start using Linux > >out of the box, not at all. What I was hoping to see was some > >evidence that they wanted to keep things as accessible as possible and > >keep the change-over as seamless as possible, thereby not losing any > >of their members. Apparently, losing membership access is not > >important. I think that is a shame, especially when it is a consumer > >based organization. the offhand "we're sorry if this inconveniences > >anyone..." is a callous and a noncaring way to treat people, any > >people, and especially those who count on that particular means of > >access. > > > >For some, it may be their only way to talk with others and to learn > >about the world outside their own surcomscribed lives. I think that > >the techies who run the machines at that organization would be > >astonished at the kinds of people who access their services and if > >they knew more about their constituency, they might not take such a > >cavalier attitude toward scrapping the telnet and the bbs services. > > > >I don't access their services, but as a netizen of some years, and one > >familiar with online communities, I can safely say that this BBS, > >whatever it is, is an online community and there are probably members > >of that community who need it. They may not be the vocal members, > >they are probably the lurkers in the background who come on, take part > >in the community and consider it to be their home. There may be > >others for whom this online community makes the difference between > >sanity and not. > > > >One doesn't destroy a community thoughtlessly with a paragraph or two > >couched in pretty phrases, not unless an alternative is offered. > > > >that is why the topic came up. That is why I started this discussion. > >That is why I wrote to the original poster of the forwarded msg to ask > >about SSH to ask about alternatives. I repeat. You can not destroy a > >community thoughtlessly. > > > >Ann P. > > > >sy>>>>> "Darrell" == Darrell Shandrow <nu7i at azboss.net> writes: > > > > Darrell> Hi Ann, Keep in mind that Linux is actually not > > Darrell> appropriate for most users, especially the command-line > > Darrell> interface. Most people want their technology to be > > Darrell> simple to operate. They're not interested in how the > > Darrell> computer works or anything of that sort. They just want > > Darrell> to use it to get work done! > > > > > >-- > > Ann K. Parsons > >email: akp at eznet.net ICQ Number: 33006854 > >WEB SITE: http://home.eznet.net/~akp > >"All that is gold does not glitter. Not all those who wander are >lost." JRRT > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Speakup mailing list > >Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup