especially when the leader for their technology goes around talking about wanting to keep their technology simple and affordable. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Parsons" <akp@xxxxxxxxx> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 8:19 PM Subject: Re: NFB Net goes linux! Hi Darrell, That's very true, Darrell, but what I'm objecting to is that the original message in the thread stated that telnet and the BBS features of their system would no longer be available. This, I felt was short changing some of their members, and I thought it was too bad. I wanted the techies to be more knowledgeable so that their members wouldn't have to give up telnet or BBS access. <smile> No, I wasn't suggesting that the end users start using Linux out of the box, not at all. What I was hoping to see was some evidence that they wanted to keep things as accessible as possible and keep the change-over as seamless as possible, thereby not losing any of their members. Apparently, losing membership access is not important. I think that is a shame, especially when it is a consumer based organization. the offhand "we're sorry if this inconveniences anyone..." is a callous and a noncaring way to treat people, any people, and especially those who count on that particular means of access. For some, it may be their only way to talk with others and to learn about the world outside their own surcomscribed lives. I think that the techies who run the machines at that organization would be astonished at the kinds of people who access their services and if they knew more about their constituency, they might not take such a cavalier attitude toward scrapping the telnet and the bbs services. I don't access their services, but as a netizen of some years, and one familiar with online communities, I can safely say that this BBS, whatever it is, is an online community and there are probably members of that community who need it. They may not be the vocal members, they are probably the lurkers in the background who come on, take part in the community and consider it to be their home. There may be others for whom this online community makes the difference between sanity and not. One doesn't destroy a community thoughtlessly with a paragraph or two couched in pretty phrases, not unless an alternative is offered. that is why the topic came up. That is why I started this discussion. That is why I wrote to the original poster of the forwarded msg to ask about SSH to ask about alternatives. I repeat. You can not destroy a community thoughtlessly. Ann P. sy>>>>> "Darrell" == Darrell Shandrow <nu7i at azboss.net> writes: Darrell> Hi Ann, Keep in mind that Linux is actually not Darrell> appropriate for most users, especially the command-line Darrell> interface. Most people want their technology to be Darrell> simple to operate. They're not interested in how the Darrell> computer works or anything of that sort. They just want Darrell> to use it to get work done! -- Ann K. Parsons email: akp at eznet.net ICQ Number: 33006854 WEB SITE: http://home.eznet.net/~akp "All that is gold does not glitter. Not all those who wander are lost." JRRT _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup at braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup