Hi Ann and all, Well ya know, I did get the file zinf and upon trying to run the rpm I gound that i needed yet another rpm first. OK, so off I went and did that too. Now I installed both RPM's and guess what? You got it -- a command line parameter is missing. The -ui which I guess must be a user interface file or designation. At that point I did what any sane person would do; I went off and watched adescribed movie on TV and a described video and said to myself, tomorrow is another day and if I ask one of those nice folks on the list, surely they will know what to do. So here I am fresh from two cool movies and asking you all what I should be looking to do? So a rose is a rose but where on the comand line does the thorn go? In fact what is the thorn when they call it a ui? -- charlie Crawford.