Oh yes, I'm well aware of both os's place. Did I mention before I'm studying to be a network administrator in college? This year we work win 2k and some xp, next year we use redhat. This is part of the reason why I joined this list and am downloading the redhat isos, I want to get some experience before I'm thrust into using something I'm not used to. Besides, when I heard about speakup from a person on a different list, it caught my attention, since I'm always looking for a better, more stable computing experience. I understand linux has a better tcp/ip stack than windows, is that true? Who knows, maybe I'll get better performance out of my 56k modem and won't need to upgrade to dsl after all. And I'd imagine my sound card won't be as fisty in linux as in windows. Jason Symes kids in the backseat can cause accidents, but accidents in the back seat can cause kids The best measure of a man's honesty isn't his income tax return. It's the zero adjust on his bathroom scale. (Arthur C. Clarke) if you stand for nothing you're liable to fall for anything. If it weren't for bad luck, I wouldn't have any at all! Just trying to plug away!