Hi Tylor, <smile> that's a pretty good rant, my friend. If you keep this up, you may just surpass some of the best ranters on the net. Let me see if I can help you just a little bit here. >>>>> "Tyler" == Tyler Spivey <tspivey8 at telus.net> writes: Tyler> oh, can someone please tell me how to get word (crap) to Tyler> open (with c-o) in a certain directory? this is sort of Tyler> important for my science class, but i could always bang at Tyler> the help which ... <rants more> I Tylor, I am not sure what you mean here, but let me see if I can help. You want to open or to save docs in something other than My Documents or My Office or whatever, right? Let's take the saving issue first because if you can't save the thing where you want it, you won't be able to retrieve it. When you hit ctrl-s in a new doc it opens the save-as dialogue box. You are sitting on the edit field where you type in the file name. Instead of typing in just the file name, type in the path to that file name. Now you have to realize that Windows is *not* going to create any directory that isn't already there, so if you need help to create directories from My Computer let me know privately and we'll go backward in the learning curve to pick up that bit. So type in the whole path plus the filename, e.g. c:\my documents\Science papers\oxygen1.doc Once you've saved the file where you want it, then opening MSWord and that file shouldn't be a problem. The thing is you can't tell Word to open itself in the directory where you want it to be, all you can =do is tell it which file in which directory you want. So, if you're in something else, popen a window and get into MSWord. The quickest way is to use windows-D and open the desktop and hit the shortcut from there if you have one. Then, hit ctrl-o to open your file menu. You will be placed in the edit field. It looks the same as the one for the save-as dialogue. So, type in the whole path: c:\my documents\science papers\oxygen1.doc That should bring up the file you want. Here's a cute little tip for you. If you go into the file menu of MSWord, the last four files you worked on will be listed there. Just press enter on the one you want. Tyler> what about jfw and Tyler> ie? i went to a teacher's page, under ie and edbrowse, and Tyler> jaws said (under ie) something like a long url. edbrowse Tyler> said the alt text. arg. i pop into dos so often to copy Tyler> that science document (in .txt of course), or mkdir Tyler> something - explorer is ... dull. you have to actually Tyler> press a lot of keys to resize the columns. which, b the Tyler> way, jaws says "blank", and that is a pain. ms doesn't Tyler> have any sort of api to explorer as far as i know, so we're Tyler> stuck with truncated file names until we resize the Tyler> columns. and i hate multi-column lists, because you Tyler> constantly gotta arrow around to get at 'm. same with word Tyler> - it lands you on the first file, skipping folders. that Tyler> should be configurable, not a forced default. I'm not sure what some of this is about, Tyler, but you can get Windows to show you files with their paths if you want. Open My Computer and get into C. Then, go to the view menue and arrow down till you get to options. In there you will come to the files and folders options. Explore that and see what happens. Ann P. -- Ann K. Parsons email: akp at eznet.net ICQ Number: 33006854 WEB SITE: http://home.eznet.net/~akp "All that is gold does not glitter. Not all those who wander are lost." JRRT