Hi, the best way for us to install is to choose the custom install option. That way we can install what we wish and leave behind those applications that we don't wish. However, don't sell Gnome short, gnopernicus is coming along pretty well, and someday probably next year we will have access to Gnome 2.0. As for obtaining a text login this can be done in two different ways. During the installation there is a question that has many items on it such as default desktop graphical desktop, gui or text login, etc. You could check it there, and you would get a text login. Another option is if you are loading in x such as if you had installed X Windows with Gnome you could do a alt+control+f1 to get to a text login, login to your box, and open /etc/inittab in your favorite text editor, and set it from run level 5 to run level 3. Naturally, if there is no X Windows you will get a run level 3 text login by default. Hth.