Thanks for the info on mutt. I will give it a try again. Nice summary of the pine charset thing. I looked at the faq and saw that after posting. Thanks -- -- Thomas Stivers stivers_t at mail.utexas.edu On Fri, 24 May 2002, Kerry Hoath wrote: > This is covered in the Pine FAQ. > Windows-1252 is some charset that is specific to windows. > the Pine developers don't want to supress the warning because it does > cause certain users problems with characters and they would rather warn > users of the bad character set than silently ignore it. > Windows-1252 is not blessed by ISO and is only a standard by virtue > that microsoft has put lots of it out there. > It can cause havock with mime filtering gateways, character set conversion, and > certain terminals. > you are both right, a way to silence the message and fixing the windows computers should _both_ be done. > > You can make mutt refresh the screen better by setting > set help=no > in your .muttrc but you loose the top line of help. > Note that if you delete a message and the next > message has the same from or to line > on it the lines will not be spoken. > this is an ncurses optimization. If a program does not clear the screen > and writes the same text to the same location on the screen that allready contains that text > then ncurses will not rewrite the text onto the screen. This saves time > over serial lines since if the text is allready onscreen > it makes no sense to put the same text back in the same place unless > the colour has changed. > When I use mutt I usually drop back to the index and hit d rather than deleteing inside > a message. The reason for this is I don't allways want to read > the next message in the spool and I use the index to decide > which messages I want to read. > Many messsages get deleted without ever beeing opened. > I hit enter on the messages I want to read and I set my header weeding in such a way > that I cut out all the x- headers and all the list- headers. > I know that hitting q then d then numpad 8 to quit a message, > delete it and then read the current line for the next message under > the cursor is 3 keystrokes but hell, > I can touchtype at 50 words per minute so 3 keys takes > about half a second if that. > The efficiency freaks are allways welcome to use mh <smile> > but seriously I preferr mutt over pine and elm because of the integrated > pgp support, the low noise screen display, the customizibility > and the complete manual. > I also like the way mutt marks new messages with N messages to you with t > messages directly to you with + and messages cced to you with c > so a new message carboncopied to you is nc. Pine does not do this. > > Regards, Kerry. > On Thu, May 23, 2002 at 09:00:48PM -0500, Thomas Stivers wrote: > > This does not apply. The charset stuff does not have any ill affects for > > the windows users, therefore the program which does cause annoying > > messages should have the ability to be silenced. > > > > Here I go letting myself get involved in this bickeri... er "exchange of > > ideas" again. > > > > -- > > > > -- > > Thomas Stivers > > stivers_t at mail.utexas.edu > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > >
