This is covered in the Pine FAQ. Windows-1252 is some charset that is specific to windows. the Pine developers don't want to supress the warning because it does cause certain users problems with characters and they would rather warn users of the bad character set than silently ignore it. Windows-1252 is not blessed by ISO and is only a standard by virtue that microsoft has put lots of it out there. It can cause havock with mime filtering gateways, character set conversion, and certain terminals. you are both right, a way to silence the message and fixing the windows computers should _both_ be done. You can make mutt refresh the screen better by setting set help=no in your .muttrc but you loose the top line of help. Note that if you delete a message and the next message has the same from or to line on it the lines will not be spoken. this is an ncurses optimization. If a program does not clear the screen and writes the same text to the same location on the screen that allready contains that text then ncurses will not rewrite the text onto the screen. This saves time over serial lines since if the text is allready onscreen it makes no sense to put the same text back in the same place unless the colour has changed. When I use mutt I usually drop back to the index and hit d rather than deleteing inside a message. The reason for this is I don't allways want to read the next message in the spool and I use the index to decide which messages I want to read. Many messsages get deleted without ever beeing opened. I hit enter on the messages I want to read and I set my header weeding in such a way that I cut out all the x- headers and all the list- headers. I know that hitting q then d then numpad 8 to quit a message, delete it and then read the current line for the next message under the cursor is 3 keystrokes but hell, I can touchtype at 50 words per minute so 3 keys takes about half a second if that. The efficiency freaks are allways welcome to use mh <smile> but seriously I preferr mutt over pine and elm because of the integrated pgp support, the low noise screen display, the customizibility and the complete manual. I also like the way mutt marks new messages with N messages to you with t messages directly to you with + and messages cced to you with c so a new message carboncopied to you is nc. Pine does not do this. Regards, Kerry. On Thu, May 23, 2002 at 09:00:48PM -0500, Thomas Stivers wrote: > This does not apply. The charset stuff does not have any ill affects for > the windows users, therefore the program which does cause annoying > messages should have the ability to be silenced. > > Here I go letting myself get involved in this bickeri... er "exchange of > ideas" again. > > -- > > -- > Thomas Stivers > stivers_t at mail.utexas.edu > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- Kerry Hoath: kerry at gotss.net kerry at gotss.eu.org or kerry at gotss.spice.net.au ICQ: 8226547 msn: kerry at gotss.net Yahoo: kerryhoath at yahoo.com.au
