Toby: I was never able to make hide nor hair of exactly that file. My last heavy use of Win was exactly Win 98, though it was certainly before JFW 3.5. I don't know that we're exactly OK in saying "it's accessible" if it's dependent on a particular proprietary assistive technology. That doesn't define "accessible" in my book. But, more to the point, I was cer5tainly stopped in my efforts to get usable data from that feature on Win 98 systems. Could you post an example of its output on this list that's readable? Or is that a hack? If it's a hack, then it's not accessible from that measure as well. On Thu, 23 May 2002, Toby Fisher wrote: > On Sun, 19 May 2002, Janina Sajka wrote: > > > You're saying you can get a text file about hw from Win? That's > > imporvement over the last time I tried such a thing. Do you know > > where, exactly, per chance? Perhaps I should add the datum to the > > Speakup Modified HOWTO. > > > >> The one I remember was on Control Panel \ System \ Device Manager > > something or other. But, I don't recall its output being > > accessible. > > It's perfectly accessible, or at least, it is in Win98 and versions of JFW > later than 3.5. Ok, it spouts a load of graphics at you, but it also > tells you the names of the hardware, the names of all the sections like > usb controller etc etc. Ok, it's not a text file, but there's nothing to > stop you creating one.