Hi all, Tell it like it is brother, amen, halleluia!!! Most of this traffic in quotes is due to the increasing numbers of Windows users on this list! Windows mailers are notorious for assuming that you want to quote the entire message from before. there is no choice, no possible solution unless you are a responsible human being and are willing to take the five minutes to type ctrl-a and then to hit the delete key so that all this quoted garbage goes bye-bye. Friends, if you must learn about Linux via Windows, then please, for God's sake, have the common courtesy to trim your messages! I realize that other lists where you frequent allow quoting and don't give a damn about the ISpS disk space or the fact that people in countries other than the U.S. pay by the byte or by the minute for their on-line time! However, this is a Linux list. Most of us are using mailers which have choices attached to them. You can quote or not, depending on the message. We feel that this is a more reasonable attitude, it forces independence and self reliance and a sense of responsibility! So, get off your Windows soft couches and come into the real world where people are grown up and responsible! in short QUIT QUOTING, NOW!!! If this were a list at SJU and if I ran it, I'd have every single one of you blessed quoters on review. I wouldn't let any messages from you go through until you'd learned your lesson. I don't own this list, and I dunnow if Mailman allows listowners to place posters on review. Wish it did! It's amazing what a week of unposted messages does for Windows users of lists. They finally grow up and get the point. It usually takes them about a week though, they're so darned used to Daddy Billy-Boy wiping their noses for them. Ann P. -- Ann K. Parsons email: akp at eznet.net ICQ Number: 33006854 WEB SITE: http://home.eznet.net/~akp "All that is gold does not glitter. Not all those who wander are lost." JRRT