Folks, Make a long story short, I had put together a Debian box I was planning to press into service as a firewall box. I for curiosity sake installed the Bastille package. Seems this might have caused me problems or its at least the only thing I can point to as the possible cause. When trying to ssh into that machine from any other machine that is in the hosts file, I get the following error. ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed I am not sure what this error is and haven't found the likely cause. Any ideas? Again the machine that is causing the problems does know about all other machines in the network. Any thoughts appreciated and I'm sure its something really simple I'm overlooking. That's my punishment for starting a project and then putting it off for a few months then to go back to it and having a bad memory.<grin> Scott