Hi all, I must agree with Gena. I would like to see us get access to Gnome and to Xwindows,. It will help us to access some of those things which the majority seems to think are so important. On the other hand, as far as I understand this and how it works. The command-line interface will never go away in Linux. You can still do most things with the commands. Graphics is good for some things, but it can not hold a candle to a robust command-line interface at all. It will never be able to do that. Why? Because navigating in Windows is at best an exercise in memorization of keystrokes which may or may not get you what you want, and at worst a plodding torturous treck through menu after menu. If you are a Windows expert, then Windows is easy for a blind person. It does require a great deal of visualization and reliance upon the blind user's conprehension of visual relationships and so on. When you press a key in Windows, there's usually no way to go back to verify that the command you gave was correct. You just have to trust that your memory isn't faulty or the menus are correct. If I type a command in Linux, usually, there's a way I can check the syntax of that command to be damned sure I got what I wanted. When a sighted person uses a mouse, there is immediate visual feedback. The color of the link pressed changes, the color of the text in the window changes, something happens visually! Usually the only confirmation you get is if the program does what you wanted, and sometimes you have to check that too. No, too slow, too combersome too damned time consuming. Ann P. -- Ann K. Parsons email: akp at eznet.net ICQ Number: 33006854 WEB SITE: http://home.eznet.net/~akp "All that is gold does not glitter. Not all those who wander are lost." JRRT