Hi Kerry and all! I don't doubt that it is within the realm of possibility to get the sblive running properly for the reflector, because I know others are doing it; I just doubt whether I'll maintain my sanity long enough to get it to happen! Seriously, thanks for the tips; I understand about AC97 but i don't understand about second mike support. Do I have that? I've been trying to follow Kirk's amixer.out but sometimes I get the complaint that it can't find a control even after I type it painstakingly. I don't have an asound.conf though I did before when I had alsa. I do have an asound.state, but even if you edit manually you have to figure out what to edit. Will keep working on it.