Hi Janina, If you are using nano as your pine composer and can really just cursor up into the header area without first closing the file with ctrl-x, I would sure like to know how you do it. If you have merely given nano as the name of the editor and have not checked one of the "enable-alternate-editor-..." options, you are actually not using nano at all, but the built in composer. At least that is the behavior I get here. When you are composing a message and are down in the message body area, can you do a ctrl-c to cancel the message, a ctrl-o to postpone it, do your functions keys work as shortcuts for the various editor commands? What does the top line of your screen say? I would sure like to see your pinerc file if you can use nano the way you describe. Toby suggested setting the "EDITOR" environment variable, which I have set to nano also, but still unless I check one of those two pine "enable" options, I come up in the built-in pine composer, which is neither pico nor nano. Experiment: Just for kicks - use "mv" to change the name of your pico and nano executables. Call them something absurd like "porco" and "nato" for instance. Then see if you can use pine to compose a message. I bet you can. PS - Don't forget to change them back! <smile> Cheers - Chuck On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, Janina Sajka wrote: > Charles, I don't quite follow. I have no problem arrowing up into the > header while in the nano composer. I'm also able to do that from pico. > And, pico has a Ctrl-o postpone command, I believe. > > > On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, Charles Hallenbeck wrote: > > > I believe that the built-in "pine composer" is actually not pico > > at all. It is truly built-in and tightly integrated, so that you > > can cursor up into the header area from the message body, and > > ctrl-x is all you need to do to send the file. You can also do > > ctrl-o to postpone the composition while in the message body, and > > you cannot do any of those things in pico. Pico is an editor > > patterned after the pine composer, and that is very different > > from saying that pine uses pico by default. It does not! So in > > fact if you specified pico as your pine editor, you would get > > behavior very like nano. You could not cursor up from the message > > body into the header area, you could not postpone the message > > while in the message body, and you would have to explicitly exit > > pico with ctrl-x and then separately send the message with > > another ctrl-x. > > > > So what you now have with nano is as good as it gets! <smile> > > > > Chuck > > > > > > On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, Dan Murphy wrote: > > > > > Hi Chuck and Janina. Here's how I have it configured. > > > I have the alternate editor implicitly option enabled. I have nano > > > chosen as the editor of choice with the "-t" along with other things > > > specified on the command line, and now it seems to be doing what I was > > > hoping for. > > > thanks again, Chuck. > > > it seems you can not totally replace the default editor in pine but must > > > use one of the alternate editor options in order for pine to bring up > > > your chosen editor. > > > > > > > > > Dan Murphy > > > mailto:mweeby at earthlink.net > > > Let us not look back in anger or forward > > > in fear, but around us in awareness. > > > -- James Thurber > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > Visit me at http://www.valstar.net/~hallenbeck > > The Moon is Waning Crescent (47% of Full) > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > -- > > Janina Sajka, Director > Technology Research and Development > Governmental Relations Group > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > http://www.openebook.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > Visit me at http://www.valstar.net/~hallenbeck The Moon is Waning Crescent (42% of Full)