Amanda, you are right. I met a lot of so-called "hard coders" during my studies at the university who thought that they could do everything.I graduated just a year ago and at my university, Temple University in Philly, Visual C++ was only a small fraction of the program. Mostly C, Assembly and C++, but on Unix and VMS. We were given a chance to try Visual C on Win NT platform, but only for comparison purposes. Now I think Java is overtaking slowly. Vic ----- Original Message ----- From: "Amanda Lee" <amanda@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 3:36 PM Subject: Re: Computer Science > Nope, Unix, Mainframes aren't standard anymore. The college grads we get > these days at Verizon have no clue what Unix or Mainframes are all about. > Everything is taught on a Windows-based Platform. I believe JAVA is > taught, probably Visual Basic, Maybe sometimes C Language but usually C > Plus Plus which was actually abandoned in the project I work on for > straight C Language. > > I would think in the future though, there will be a change back to at > least teaching Linux since it can run on a less expensive platform. It's > pretty disgraceful how the content of Computer Sciences education has been > degraded and these kids coming out have an ego bigger than life and think > they can take on the World in a day! > > They really struggle when they can't understand how to program and the > quality of code coming out is pretty awful. There is even this mentality > in the Corporate World which indicates that one can learn everything they > need to on the job and yet they can't figure out why there are so many > problems with efficiency and the costs resulting from poor efficiency. > > Amanda Lee > > > > On Thu, 14 Mar 2002 jwantz at hpcc2.hpcc.noaa.gov wrote: > > > Hi Chris, > > I'm not going to get involved in the "bookshare wars', but since you were > > chastizing others on this list because most people use WINDOWS and not > > linux, I think its only fair to point out that your computer science > > department is very nonstandard. Though I am a meteorologist, not a > > computer science person, I know many computer science students in the past > > and the present. Teaching WINDOWS programming is very nonstandard. I > > would guess that at least 90 percent of the schools teach programming on a > > UNIX variant of some kind. In the past thre was a fair amount of people > > using VMS. However, a lot of beginning C and C++ classes did use > > Turbo/Borland. WINDOWS programming is much more difficult than UNIX > > programming, so I suppose you are to be congratulated for making it > > through such a tough curriculum. > > > > Jim Wantz > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > >
