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I know, Chuck. It can be so hard to believe that when they've given us 
such wonderful things as standard time and speakup.


On Sun, 3 Mar 2002, Charles Hallenbeck wrote:

> Canada? Canada? You mean Canada is not part of the USA?
> 
> On Sun, 3 Mar 2002, Janina Sajka wrote:
> 
> > Ooopps. Don't know about Canadian law. Sorry. Guess on the net I'm not
> > always aware of who's where.
> >
> > My mistake. Thanks,Greg, for pointing it out.
> >
> > On Sun, 3 Mar 2002, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> >
> > > Ok, but he's in Canada, isn't he? Does that still apply to him?
> > > Greg
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Mar 03, 2002 at 12:46:00PM -0500, Janina Sajka wrote:
> > > > Brian:
> > > >
> > > > There are patches to get around the printing restriction. See the Adobe
> > > > Remedies page at http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Adobe/Gallery/
> > > >
> > > > And, if the copyright police come knocking on your door, call me. As a
> > > > blind person in the U.S., you have a right to these files.
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, 3 Mar 2002, Brian Borowski wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > There are certainly pdf files that I cannot convert, for two main reasons.
> > > > > Either, there are some unknown character sets that pdftotext can't figure
> > > > > out how to deal with, or printing is not allowed.  The problem is, that if
> > > > > printing isn't allowed, then we can't even convert them to display at all
> > > > > and therefore, we can't read them.  I will try and find out how to get
> > > > > around this restriction, because it does not apply in our case, anyway.
> > > > >
> > > > > Brian
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, 2 Mar 2002, Janina Sajka wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Brian:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The XPDF home page at http://www.foolabs.com/xpdf/cracking.html says the
> > > > > > following:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >    "If any security features are turned on by the creator of a PDF
> > > > > > document, the PDF file will be encrypted. These
> > > > > >    security features let an author disallow printing, copying
> > > > > > text/graphics, editing, and/or adding annotations.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >    "The Xpdf package honors these permission settings. Specifically:
> > > > > >      * xpdf will not copy/paste from a PDF file which disallows copying
> > > > > > text/graphics
> > > > > >      * xpdf and pdftops will not print (convert to PostScript) a PDF file
> > > > > > which disallows printing
> > > > > >      * pdftotext will not convert a PDF file which disallows copying
> > > > > > text/graphics
> > > > > >      * pdfimages will not extract images from a PDF file which disallows
> > > > > > copying text/graphics
> > > > > >
> > > > > >    "I occasionally get email asking if I can explain how to crack a PDF
> > > > > > file, or if I can help decrypt a PDF file. I won't
> > > > > >    help these people because I believe that an author's requests relating
> > > > > > to the use of his/her work should be honored."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Of course, there are patches out there to inhibit these restrictions and a
> > > > > > soon to be published paper from AFB will demonstrate that people who are
> > > > > > blind have the legal right in the U.S. to circumvent such measures. Some
> > > > > > of these patches are referenced at the page entitled "A Gallery of Adobe
> > > > > > Remedies," which is at http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Adobe/Gallery/, though
> > > > > > I have not succeeded in getting the ones I've tried to work.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Are you saying that the Debian distribution of XPDF inhibits these
> > > > > > restrictions by default?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sat, 2 Mar 2002, Brian Borowski wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > There are no problems in converting this book.  Here's an easy recipe.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > *  Assume you are running that most superb distribution of linux known as
> > > > > > > debian; there's been a couple of nasty things said about debian recently by
> > > > > > > a couple of people on here...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > * and you don't have xpdf installed, then do:
> > > > > > > apt-get install xpdf
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > * then:
> > > > > > > xpdf 1893115852_xx.pdf
> > > > > > > for each chapter.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > * You will end up with  .txt files which are quite readable; though, they
> > > > > > > have a little bit of leading space at the start of the lines, but
> > > > > > > then:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > you could strip these with a one-line perl script like
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > perl -pe 's/^\s+//;' input-file >output-file
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > or something like that...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Brian Borowski
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Fri, 1 Mar 2002, Janina Sajka wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
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> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Good Afternoon from Apress!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > We have made available for free download "A Programmer's Introduction to PHP
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> > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Kind Regards,
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> > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > --
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 				Janina Sajka, Director
> > > > > > 				Technology Research and Development
> > > > > > 				Governmental Relations Group
> > > > > > 				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Email: janina at afb.net		Phone: (202) 408-8175
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> > > > 				Janina Sajka, Director
> > > > 				Technology Research and Development
> > > > 				Governmental Relations Group
> > > > 				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
> > > >
> > > > Email: janina at afb.net		Phone: (202) 408-8175
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> > 				Janina Sajka, Director
> > 				Technology Research and Development
> > 				Governmental Relations Group
> > 				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
> >
> > Email: janina at afb.net		Phone: (202) 408-8175
> >
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				Janina Sajka, Director
				Technology Research and Development
				Governmental Relations Group
				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

Email: janina at afb.net		Phone: (202) 408-8175

Chair, Accessibility SIG
Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF)
http://www.openebook.org





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