I'm still messing with trying to get this to work. I checked the version and it is rawrite 1.3 I tried doingit all at the command line and got a different error. Don't remember what it was but rawrite wouldn't work anymore after that. I'll try what you said and re acquire it. I got rawrite right from the RedHat CD ROM. I'll try it again, unless you know of another source to download it from. The archive bit was the only thing set. I'd try a different version of RedHat, or even a different distro of Linux but I already have these CD's in hand and it beats trying a monster download on a slow conection. If worse comes to worse, I could have my son read the setup screens to set it up. I'd rather have it speak to me so I can do it myself though. I'll keep plugging away at it. thanks for the info so far. from Keith H. bumper Sticker: 6. This Would Be Really Funny If It Weren't Happening To Me