Charles, I checked arround on my system. In my monthly cron job file there is a comment that the rotation of wtmp has been taken over by logrotate. (I have debian if it matters.) Also, I noticed that I have a wtmp.1 last modified on Jan 31, and a wtmp. From this information I would think that it would be fine to move the file and let the system create a new one automatically. If you wanted to be sure, you could touch the file just after moving to put a new one in place. ======= Kirk Wood Cpt.Kirk at 1tree.net Nowlan's Theory: He who hesitates is not only lost, but several miles from the next freeway exit.