Hi Adam - Yes, I did all those things. I said 'yes' to those options and also to two other choices having to do with compression, but I did not change the setting for ppp filters. I removed the actual modules installed by the winmodem package plus the install script plus the line that was added to rc.local that ran the script, plus about three other support files in /etc and /usr/sbin. As far as I know that was the entire list. I was running 2.4.5 for about a week before the adventure with the winmodem, but I cannot honestly say for sure if those error messages appeared when moving to 2.4.5 or whether they first appeared when playing with the winmodem - I ordinarily disregard the output of ppp-go and ppp-off unless there is a connect failure or something. I am comfortable compiling kernels and have a machine fast enough to make it relatively painless to do it. I often will make only a single change or perhaps a couple of changes when modifying the kernel configuration, rather than make a long list of changes. If a failure occurs at some point it is nice to know that the cause comes from a short list of possibilities instead of a long list. Chuck On Mon, 11 Feb 2002, Adam Myrow wrote: > I had no trouble switching from 2.2.19 to 2.4.X. I now run 2.4.17 quite > happily. If you're using Speakup with 2.4.5, I assume that you had to > compile it yourself? If so, did you answer y for both PPP support and > async serial support? Other than that, I've never seen the errors you > described. Also, when you took out the Winmodem, did you nuke any modules > it may have installed plus any calls to modprobe or insmod that referred to > them? > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > Visit me now at http://www.valstar.net/~hallenbeck The Moon is New