Hi all! Actually, one can get just a binary of Pine (and Pico) and put it on one's system; I've had to do that because I don't know how to do whatever modifications one has to do to compile Pine in debian. I'm really interested to know, from somebody who has used both mutt and pine, if mutt offers something that pine doesn't. I have used pine from the beginning, but being the adventurous type, I'm allways considering trying different things. I actually do enjoy using vm once in a while too, but I think my main enjoyment of that comes from all the auditory icons I get with it in emacspeak. -- Cheryl