um. janina, I thought pine was the decendant of elm? On Sat, 2 Feb 2002, Janina Sajka wrote: > Chris: > > Isn't ELM now stagnant? Hasn't the version been the same for years? If my > info is correct, MUTT is a descendant of ELM. > > On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Chris Peterson wrote: > > > I've never used mutt, but elm is pretty good... > > > > Thanks for the info on cursor tracking. > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Janina Sajka" <janina at afb.net> > > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> > > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 5:24 PM > > Subject: Re: html mail... > > > > > > > Hi, Pete: > > > > > > Attached herewith is my .pinerc file. You'll find your highlight tracks if > > > you use it. Of course you could set cursor tracking yourself and that > > > would do it as well, but someone was saying something about sharing. I've > > > shared this before, and I'm sure I'll be delighted to share it again. And, > > > if and when I get around to writing the filter for the char set warnings, > > > I'll certainly include them. And, if someone else figures that out first, > > > please share it. Etc. > > > > > > Now, if Pine was just GPL ... But it's not, so maybe it's time to try > > > mutt. > > > > > > On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Chris Peterson wrote: > > > > > > > Well, that shows my ignorance of pine. > > > > > > > > I haven't used it for several years, but I just tried it out and had no > > > > trouble with reading html mail. I also had no trouble reading it in > > elm. > > > > > > > > So, perhaps the better solution would be to distribute a version of pine > > > > with defaults that are screen reader friendly? Supressing these > > warnings > > > > would be a start. > > > > > > > > Another thing I noticed, on the pine I was using, is that the cursor > > doesn't > > > > track the highlight bar so I can't use the read current line command to > > > > figure out what message I'm on in the message index...etc. It seems to > > me > > > > that there used to be a way to toggle cursor tracking, but I didn't find > > it > > > > when I was playing around with pine 4.10 today. > > > > > > > > This would be a constructive way of trying to avoid these discussions. > > > > > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Janina Sajka" <janina at afb.net> > > > > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> > > > > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 4:52 PM > > > > Subject: Re: html mail... > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Chris Peterson wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps pine could even be modified to allow you to access links > > imbeded > > > > > > in an html message. Thats where I find html to be really useful. I > > > > > > like the fact that, in Windows, I can press enter on a url in a > > message > > > > > > and almost immediately access the page. > > > > > This has nothing to do with html, and this feature has been in Pine > > for > > > > > years now. > > > > > > > > > > Yes, that's right, all those urls in Pine text messages are > > "clickable" as > > > > > the mousy crowd calls them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Janina Sajka, Director > > > Technology Research and Development > > > Governmental Relations Group > > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > > > > Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > > > > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > > > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > > > http://www.openebook.org > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > -- Shaun Oliver Marriage is a three ring circus: engagement ring, wedding ring, and suffering. -- Roger Price Email: shauno at goanna.net.au Icq: 76958435