I don't know if I would agree with Janina that text interface is the only way to get a lot of work done. But the need for fashy screens diminishes when you know more about what you are doing. I think another factor is that people who use their computer for a real purpose are more concerned about getting things done then having flashy interfaces. And a good visual interface allows for full keyboard control. There are times when I send html mail to sighted people because I want to be able to highlight for them. Of course I can always use astrics to highlight something but a little color can add a lot for sighted people. One thing I wonder is it hard to have the screen reader skip a given number of lines? I ask because it would seem natural if you hear something about a character set to know that the next three lines can be skipped. I would agree that endless quoting is anoying. And that isn't just for blind people. It is for all people. Just some don't have any sense. I often just delete messages with too much quoted. ======= Kirk Wood Cpt.Kirk at 1tree.net Nowlan's Theory: He who hesitates is not only lost, but several miles from the next freeway exit.