Hi Well as I said in a previous post. Its a matter of perception. Of course Microslop users aren't interested in how the PC works nor do they need to know a lot? Its an illusion which some Blinux users need to drop and face reality. MS users have to know a lot more than they're usually given credit. Listen to today's "Main Menu" feature on accessing Google's Usernet groups. Now what was it? Control + insert + down arrow for Window Eyes users and insert + enter for JFW 4.0 users. Now how do I enter text in an edit field, edit box or is it rich edit field? Oh ya, insert is the numeric zero key. I'm not suggesting that GNU/Linux isn't without a steep learning curve, I'm just suggesting that the gap isn't as wide as many believe. Gena >You are correct but it's the double-edged whammy! MSAA sure does enable >moreso than it doesn't but it is lip service from MacroSloth at best. > >In Window-Eyes for example, it's pretty currious that to open an Ecit Box >that one must turn MSAA off! in Internet Exploder > go figure! > >By the same token, Gnome 2 can't possibly guarantee that it's a seamless >operation. We shall see of course and I have greater personal confidence >in Gnome 2 than in MSAA which looked good on paper but we all know the >rest of the story. > >Amanda Lee > > On Wed, 23 Jan 2002, Kirk Wood wrote: > >> On Wed, 23 Jan 2002, Amanda Lee wrote: >> > Nope, "Off Screen model approach" is not a crutch. It does not >> > necessarily achieve the best Accessibility but it is utilized in JFW and >> > HAL. I believe that Window-Eyes also makes a good attempt to address >> > controls and so forth which aren't MS standard. I believe utilizing MSAA >> > whereever possible is obviously the best way but it doesn't always work. >> > In Window-Eyes, one can toggle MSAA on and off and it is necessary to do >> > so in certain instances. >> >> Hmm, MSAA doesn't get the job done. So they have to revert to another >> means of getting the job done. It doesn't work all the time either. Sounds >> like a crutch to me. Of course it has been wrapped in a lot of market >> speak to make it sound like the best thing since sliced bread. But they do >> that with many things. >> >> ======= >> Kirk Wood >> Cpt.Kirk at 1tree.net >> >> Nowlan's Theory: >> He who hesitates is not only lost, but several miles from >> the next freeway exit. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> > > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup