Good idea. After all we are all Speakup users, and could all give good input into IBM. ----- Original Message ----- From: Janina Sajka <janina@xxxxxxx> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 2:47 PM Subject: Re: speakup howto, was: Re: suggestions for Speakup > Gregory: > > I don't know. Theyh haven't consulted me on their plans. Why don't we just > ask them to tell us all here on the list? > > On Sat, 12 Jan 2002, Gregory Nowak wrote: > > > So will this new joint howto be a rewriting and incorperation of Saqib's original howto, or a totally new document? > > Greg > > > > > > On Sat, Jan 12, 2002 at 01:36:53PM -0500, Janina Sajka wrote: > > > Excellent questions, Gregory. IBM's Accessibility on Linux page, which is > > > at: > > > > > > > > > http://oss.software.ibm.com/developerworks/opensource/linux/projects/access/ > > > > > > says "The IBM Linux Accessibility Team contributes to the open-source > > > community's accessibility efforts in order to help > > > accelerate Linux." > > > > > > This is, of course, an incomplete statement which makes no sense on its > > > own. What do they mean "accelerate linux?" I suspect they don't mean "make > > > it run faster," for example. I'm sure there's a word missing in that > > > sentence, but I diagress ... > > > > > > This page goes on to say: > > > > > > "November 15, 2001 > > > Saqib Shaikh, author of several Speakup documents, agreed to coauthor > > > new Speakup HOWTO with Jennifer Jobst." > > > > > > Since I see no link, I assume they're not offering up any drafts just yet, > > > but I certainly expect they'll do so before finalizing their document. I > > > know Jennifer posted a draft of her emacspeak documentation on the > > > emacspeak list, so I suspect she's lurking here, and will do the same for > > > us. And, of course, Saqib is active on this list, so perhaps he'd like to > > > share about this? I do recall he offered us his own, quite excellent > > > speakup HOWTO last spring. Are there other speakup docs you've written, > > > Saqib? That one is the only one I'm aware of to date. > > > > > > Now, let me speculate on the real reason IBM is up to all those wonderful > > > efforts they proudly list at the url provided above: > > > > > > I believe IBM wants to make money selling computers to the U.S. > > > Government. I believe they want the option to sell systems without > > > Microsoft applications, and Microsoft operating systems. Recent news > > > stories have explained about contracts from IBM to Redhat for ports of the > > > Redhat distribution of open source linux for a range of IBM servers, and > > > even IBM's S390 mainframe. > > > > > > To me, these facts point to the intention to be Sec.508 compliant in > > > systems proposals for U.S. Federal procurments. And, I say, "Amen, and > > > more power to them." > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 12 Jan 2002, Gregory Nowak wrote: > > > > > > > IBM is authoring a howto about speakup? Where can I find a copy to look at? > > > > And uhhhm, why are they doing it? > > > > Greg > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jan 12, 2002 at 11:28:21AM -0500, Janina Sajka wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 11 Jan 2002, Charles Hallenbeck wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Stick to the straight and > > > > > > narrow and make sure each feature under consideration really > > > > > > belongs in a screen reader. Examples: the cut and paste feature > > > > > > really did belong; the reinitialization feature really does not. > > > > > > > > > > > Strongly agree, but with a suggested twist. > > > > > > > > > > The reinitialization feature should go into the HOWTO that Saqib and IBM > > > > > are authoring about speakup. It's a valuable tip that even novice users > > > > > can set up for themselves, and learn a little linux in the process. And, > > > > > they'll end up with a feature they are likely to find useful, and that > > > > > they wouldn't come upon very quickly on their own. > > > > > > > > > > Saqib, Jennifer, are you listening?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Janina Sajka, Director > > > Technology Research and Development > > > Governmental Relations Group > > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > > > > Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > > > > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > > > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > > > http://www.openebook.org > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > -- > > Janina Sajka, Director > Technology Research and Development > Governmental Relations Group > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > http://www.openebook.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >