First, I want to say that I agree with the other Kirk on the need for features. The truth is that many features added to software are there to justify an upgrade. That is the only reason many features are there. It seems fixing your bugs isn't a good enough reason to get people to pay for upgrades. As for the blinking clocks or whatever, the best thing is to vote against the programs by not using them. Having said that, it seems that most of that crap is in the DOS/winblows world. Perhaps again because such things are designed to sell ignoramous people on buying another upgrade. ======= Kirk Wood Cpt.Kirk at 1tree.net Nowlan's Theory: He who hesitates is not only lost, but several miles from the next freeway exit.