Yes, I've also had trouble with this. I do one of two things: Use echo from the command line which is very cludgy; Copy my /boot/message file and tweak, tweak, tweak, which is very cludgy; On Sun, 6 Jan 2002, Thomas Stivers wrote: > How exactly does one put the bell in a file. I have never gotten it to > work without using a program to generate char(7) or something. Thanks. > > -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Chair, Accessibility SIG Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) http://www.openebook.org