Its not just ms either, but the big computer companies. I had to beat my head against a brick wall, waste a month of my summer, send back two systems that weren't configured right, and argue with my sale's reps supervisor before Gateway gave me everything I wanted and needed, and they still gave me the wrong sound card. Their tech support people are idiots too, and ms' tech support makes you pay for a simple question. I can't wait until I get rh downloaded and installed! At 09:40 PM 1/1/02 +1100, you wrote: >thomas, >even though more and more people are trying out linux, it does not take >away from the fact that mr average neither knows or cares about how his >system operates. >Until mr average starts to give a damn about the inner workings of his >computer and the various problems and solutions to said problems, >microsoft will always have the upper hand. >it appears to me that an even greater number of windows users still >don't want to know or give a damn how things work. >I meet with this kind of opposition everyday. the other people that use >computers that I closely associate with, namely my partner and her >father, >both point blank refuse to touch linux with a barge pole. >My partner's father is 1 of those users that knows enough about his >machine to get out of trouble. but doesn't care for the waw linux refers >to ide or skuzzy devices nore the way everything needs to be setup by >hand. >Make no mistake about it, x isn't totally point and click and hope for >the best. >I feel it's better to get in there and swear and fart around a bit until >you get the result you desire. >On Mon, 31 Dec 2001, Thomas Ward wrote: > >> Agreed. It is the same way about Win modems. They all could be supported if >> the hhardware manufacturers got their head out of the sand and see more and >> more people are trying out Linux. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Janina Sajka <janina at afb.net> >> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> >> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:07 PM >> Subject: Re: New to LINUX >> >> >> > Stupidity for sure. Since there's absolutely nothing for them to lose, >> > this is the only word for it. >> > >> > On Tue, 1 Jan 2002, Geoff Shang wrote: >> > >> > > Hi: >> > > >> > > Let me emphasize this point about the trippletalk. It cannot be used >> with >> > > speakup. And unless and until the trippletalk folks decide to be more >> > > forth-coming with specs for their products (i.e. they stop iinsisting on >> a >> > > non-disclosure agreement), the trippletalk will remain unsupported. Of >> > > course, this is stupidity on the part of a hardware manufacturer as >> wider >> > > support means greater product sales, but a number of hardware >> manufacturers >> > > just don't seem to get it. >> > > >> > > Geoff. >> > > >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Speakup mailing list >> > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> > > >> > >> > -- >> > >> > Janina Sajka, Director >> > Technology Research and Development >> > Governmental Relations Group >> > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) >> > >> > Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 >> > >> > Chair, Accessibility SIG >> > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) >> > http://www.openebook.org >> > >> > Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper, >> > Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.asp >> > >> > Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of Martin Luther >> > King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at >> > http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp >> > >> > Learn how to make accessible software at >> > http://www.afb.org/accessapp.asp >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Speakup mailing list >> > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> > >-- >Shaun Oliver > >Marriage is a three ring circus: >engagement ring, wedding ring, and suffering. > -- Roger Price > >Email: shauno at goanna.net.au >Icq: 76958435 > > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > Jason Symes
