hahahahahahahahaha. maybe you could leave a few isp admins for dead hehe. On Tue, 1 Jan 2002, Jason Symes wrote: > I'm proud to say that I'm expanding my horizons beyond windows, and when I > graduate from college with at least an aa in networking, I'll be even more > valuable then my classmates that haven't tried any form of linux. I enjoy > my windows, but I also enjoy a bit of good, challenging change from the > fatal exception errors or the mainstream tech support idiots that think > they know a computer better than the experienced user. > At 09:40 PM 1/1/02 +1100, you wrote: > >thomas, > >even though more and more people are trying out linux, it does not take > >away from the fact that mr average neither knows or cares about how his > >system operates. > >Until mr average starts to give a damn about the inner workings of his > >computer and the various problems and solutions to said problems, > >microsoft will always have the upper hand. > >it appears to me that an even greater number of windows users still > >don't want to know or give a damn how things work. > >I meet with this kind of opposition everyday. the other people that use > >computers that I closely associate with, namely my partner and her > >father, > >both point blank refuse to touch linux with a barge pole. > >My partner's father is 1 of those users that knows enough about his > >machine to get out of trouble. but doesn't care for the waw linux refers > >to ide or skuzzy devices nore the way everything needs to be setup by > >hand. > >Make no mistake about it, x isn't totally point and click and hope for > >the best. > >I feel it's better to get in there and swear and fart around a bit until > >you get the result you desire. > >On Mon, 31 Dec 2001, Thomas Ward wrote: > > > >> Agreed. It is the same way about Win modems. They all could be supported if > >> the hhardware manufacturers got their head out of the sand and see more and > >> more people are trying out Linux. > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: Janina Sajka <janina at afb.net> > >> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> > >> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:07 PM > >> Subject: Re: New to LINUX > >> > >> > >> > Stupidity for sure. Since there's absolutely nothing for them to lose, > >> > this is the only word for it. > >> > > >> > On Tue, 1 Jan 2002, Geoff Shang wrote: > >> > > >> > > Hi: > >> > > > >> > > Let me emphasize this point about the trippletalk. It cannot be used > >> with > >> > > speakup. And unless and until the trippletalk folks decide to be more > >> > > forth-coming with specs for their products (i.e. they stop > iinsisting on > >> a > >> > > non-disclosure agreement), the trippletalk will remain unsupported. Of > >> > > course, this is stupidity on the part of a hardware manufacturer as > >> wider > >> > > support means greater product sales, but a number of hardware > >> manufacturers > >> > > just don't seem to get it. > >> > > > >> > > Geoff. > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > _______________________________________________ > >> > > Speakup mailing list > >> > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > >> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >> > > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > > >> > Janina Sajka, Director > >> > Technology Research and Development > >> > Governmental Relations Group > >> > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > >> > > >> > Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > >> > > >> > Chair, Accessibility SIG > >> > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > >> > http://www.openebook.org > >> > > >> > Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper, > >> > Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.asp > >> > > >> > Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of Martin Luther > >> > King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at > >> > http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp > >> > > >> > Learn how to make accessible software at > >> > http://www.afb.org/accessapp.asp > >> > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Speakup mailing list > >> > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > >> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Speakup mailing list > >> Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >> > > > >-- > >Shaun Oliver > > > >Marriage is a three ring circus: > >engagement ring, wedding ring, and suffering. > > -- Roger Price > > > >Email: shauno at goanna.net.au > >Icq: 76958435 > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Speakup mailing list > >Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > Jason Symes > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- Shaun Oliver Marriage is a three ring circus: engagement ring, wedding ring, and suffering. -- Roger Price Email: shauno at goanna.net.au Icq: 76958435