all Sorry I don't mean to be the one to lay down the law but some common courtesy would be appreciated. In some situations one may be reading there mail in a batch. If so please read through all the messages before responding with the same info as someone else just did. There is no reason for there to be two messages that say the same thing. Also we can do with out the me too's. Also if people could be more careful in passing out information it would be helpful. Cleaning up confusion is a lot lot harder then answering with a correct and complete response up front. If this means that you have to read some docs before sending the message to make sure that your assumptions are correct please do so. My reason for saying these items isn't because I mind reading the mail. The reason why I am saying these things are for the benefit of newbies. They don't need to be confused anymore then they already are. I counted four or so messages today that gave incorrect information to newbies. In 2 of the cases correct information had already been passed on to the person seeking the answer. If people would take the time to read the responses before answering the questions we wouldn't have these problems. I hope you all understand. Thanks for your time. -- Frank Carmickle phone: 412 761-9568 email: frankiec at dryrose.com