You were asking about make menuconfig. My recommendation was for make menuconfig and only make menuconfig. It seems obvious to me that if you turn off the speech output to get better tracking then you best know how to use the say line feature to read what is on the line you are tracking. I don't recommend necessarily turning off speech output for lynx or pine or any other packages. I do however recommend that you and any one else learn how to use the package before compiling a kernel. It isn't rocket science. Kirk -- Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility e-mail: kirk at braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario phone: (519) 661-3061