Question about their fire wall first. When we set it to medium or high or none does the change take effect right away or do we have to log off linux and back on? Also we're having quite a bit of trouble with the icq servers keeping connection. We're trying micq which I like and have used before under slackware. It keeps dropping the connection but the adsl connection here is good and stable. It could be their servers but any thoughts would be appreciated. Msn or mailto:djc2 at pacbell.net I C Q Number is: 4781694