Ok, I have things up and running: ppp worked right out of the box or should I say install so I have net access. I loved debians dselect package manager, how does one add packages in redhat? I would like to use mut for mail and news if it does news as pine speaks to much. What games are out there to play and also I will need a nice database for address/phone numnbers and a good word processor, any suggestions? I'm sure there are things I'm leaving out and probably got packages I can remove related to x, so if anyone wants to get me started in a direction I sure would appreciate it. I only got a 3 gb hd and it is on my second hd hdb. I would like to get a boot disk going and later maybe install a boot manager, but for now I'd be happy with a boot disk that I don't have to keep typing "speakup_synth=ltlk root=/dev/hdb2" Thanks.