You can forget everything after the first error. Size of ltime is not known, means the variable should have been declared differently than it was. I don't know ltime so I guess it is internal. Did you run configure before making? Were there any errors or warnings from configure if you did run it? Look at line 47 where the error is reported and see what the statement is. Kirk -- Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility e-mail: kirk at braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario phone: (519) 661-3061