Hi all, Your point is well taken, Amanda. However I think I have solved the security problems pretty well. First, I have my Linux set so that nobody can log in as root unless they have an account on my system and they know the PW. Second, I have Black Ice on the Windows side. It seems to be doing its thing. Actually, if you run your DSL all the time like I do, the same security problems present themselves. third, when I get a little money, I'm going to buy a router/hub that is going to act as the link between my computers and the outside world. You must give any people you want on your system a login and PW on this router,/hub, and nobody can get in otherwise. Most of the problems come via Gates' Garbage folks who want to log into your system. Since Gates' garbage can't even *see* linux, most of the intermediate threats to security are solved right then and there. Don' worry, we've got it all worked out. I appreciate your warnings, though. Ann P. -- Ann K. Parsons email: akp at eznet.net ICQ Number: 33006854 WEB SITE: http://home.eznet.net/~akp "All that is gold does not glitter. Not all those who wander are lost." JRRT