Just a couple of comments here. I used both Slackware 8, and Red Hat, and played some with Mandrake as well. As stated earlier linuxconf is a good tool. I like it myself, and the person who stated that the config tools don't work with speech is wrong. linuxconf, wvdialconf, sndconfig, and plenty of other config tools under Red Hat work fine with Speakup. As for Mandrake getting it setup was a breeze for me, but you will require a little sighted help resetting the run level from 5 to 3, and probably want to terminal in until you get the kernel patched with speakup. However, that said Mandrake wasn't as easy to get going with speech as Slackware, Red Hat, or the other major distributions. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shaun Oliver" <shauno@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2001 9:41 AM Subject: Re: watch for heresay > Hi kirk, > I couldn't agree more. > just because you red somewhere that something requires some other thing > doesn't mean it's totally unuseable. > and yes console came before gui not gui before console. > I think on your thoughts about debian, I might take a look at it and see > how good it is. > I'm currently using slackware 7.1 with the 2.4.4 kernel and the latest cvs > version of speakup > I'm in the process of aquiring slack 8.0 but until then, I'll stick with > this. > I've tried mandrake but I can't really give an oppinion on it because I > was a novis at the time and knew nothing about anything. about linux. > but I might give it a go soon. > > > -- > > > Shaun > > I never made a mistake in my life. > I thought I did once, but I was wrong. > -- Lucy Van Pelt > > email: shauno at goanna.net.au > icq: 76958435 > > On Sun, 14 Oct 2001, Kirk Wood wrote: > > > On Sat, 13 Oct 2001, Tony Baechler wrote: > > > ... I have no experience at all > > > with Red Hat but have read that various config tools require graphics, so > > > I would stay away from it for now. ... > > > > Sorry, but this is **not** a good thing to say. When you decide something > > shouldn't be used because you read somewhere that something is > > required. The truth (which hopefully is important) is that every needed > > config tool is available in both console and X tools. And guess what?? The > > console tool came first like so many other items in the Unix/Linux > > world. The X programs are front ends. Perhaps you should ditch the system > > because there is also a web front end for the major tool? Basically, we > > should refrain from spreading hearsay. > > > > The rest of the post was quite refreshingly honest in stating it was based > > on personal experiance. While I don't discount the experiance, here is > > another view. I have installed Debian, Redhat, and Slackware. The only > > distrobution I have had any problems with was Slackware. Once I figured > > out my mistake, Slackware was pretty easy. > > > > If you are downloading, then Debian is the smallest distro to get. This is > > hands down the truth. The initial download for Debian will always fit in > > less then 10 floppys. Debian has tools to create iso images, but doesn't > > make them. Their reason is simple: they want to minimize downloading and > > every CD they have seen has many packages many people don't want or > > need. Instead the software gets what is needed and nothing more. > > > > For the complete novice, RedHat and Debian have the easiest > > interfaces. I highly recomend RedHat's linuxconf for ease of use. With the > > one program you can do most configuration needed. It comes standard on a > > redhat install. It is available for debian and might be for slackware. > > > > Slackware has the highest learning curve for admin. That being said, it is > > the easiest to maniputlate on a basic leve. All Linux systems use text > > files for their config. Slackware is the easiest to directly modify the > > text file. > > > > ======= > > Kirk Wood > > Cpt.Kirk at 1tree.net > > > > "When I take action, I'm not going to fire a $2 million missle at > > a $10 empty tent and hit a camel in the butt. It's going to be decisive." > > - President George Bush > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >
