Hi: The other thing you have to make sure of is that you run two copies of sfspeaker. Here's what I run: sfspeaker -j & sfspeaker -p4074 -j & sfmike lwl.braille.uwo.ca:4074 Note that you'll have to kill off the sfspeaker processes afterwoods using something like killall sfspeaker, otherwise they'll continue to run which could be a pain if you disconnect from the net and get numerous errors printing up. Geoff.