Hi, Geoff: Thanks for thinking of me! Your instincts about my problems with mail are right on the nose. It is most certainly an smtp problem of some kind, and it is also not fixed yet. If you have a suggestion, I would be very grateful. Now is a good time for me to try again on a resolution. First a little background: My machine is named toccata, and its fqdn is toccata.grg.afb.net. This is named in /etc/hosts with the localhost address of 127.0.0.1--and, indeed, I have seen error messages that specifically say there was an error delivering to janina at localhost.grg.afb.net. In other words, it's making that substitution. The error I get these days specifically says smtp error, and says that it's a config error. My understanding is that dns is unsatisfied that this machine really is toccata.grg.afb.net. But, it's also possible that a port is locked as I am running firewalling here. However, I can telnet localhost 25, And, I can telnet toccata.grg.afb.net 25. so what port? The error I get after telnet and mail is the same 550 access denied in the fetchmail output below, by the bye. As pe;r your suggestion here's the output from: fetchmail --keep -Nv ... fetchmail: starting fetchmail 5.6.0 daemon fetchmail: 5.6.0 querying 208.36.95.171 (protocol POP3) at Fim 22.Mar 2001, 17:58:14 EST fetchmail: POP3< +OK QPOP (version 2.53) at helen.afb.net starting. fetchmail: POP3> USER janina fetchmail: POP3< +OK Password required for janina. fetchmail: POP3> PASS * fetchmail: POP3< +OK janina has 1 message (2132 octets). fetchmail: POP3> STAT fetchmail: POP3< +OK 1 2132 fetchmail: POP3> LAST fetchmail: POP3< +OK 0 is the last read message. 1 message for janina at 208.36.95.171 (2132 octets). fetchmail: POP3> LIST fetchmail: POP3< +OK 1 messages (2132 octets) fetchmail: POP3< 1 2132 fetchmail: POP3< . fetchmail: POP3> RETR 1 fetchmail: POP3< +OK 2132 octets reading message 1 of 1 (2132 octets) fetchmail: SMTP< 220 toccata.grg.afb.net ESMTP Sendmail 8.11.2/8.11.2; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 17:58:20 -0500 fetchmail: SMTP> EHLO localhost fetchmail: SMTP< 250-toccata.grg.afb.net Hello localhost [127.0.0.1], pleased to meet you fetchmail: SMTP< 250 ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES fetchmail: SMTP> MAIL FROM:<MIDI-MAG at MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU> fetchmail: SMTP< 550 5.0.0 Access denied fetchmail: SMTP> RSET fetchmail: SMTP< 250 2.0.0 Reset state fetchmail: SMTP< 220 toccata.grg.afb.net ESMTP Sendmail 8.11.2/8.11.2; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 17:58:20 -0500 fetchmail: SMTP> HELO localhost fetchmail: SMTP< 250 toccata.grg.afb.net Hello localhost [127.0.0.1], pleased to meet you fetchmail: SMTP> MAIL FROM:<FETCHMAIL-DAEMON at localhost> fetchmail: SMTP< 550 5.0.0 Access denied not flushed fetchmail: POP3> QUIT fetchmail: POP3< +OK Pop server at helen.afb.net signing off. fetchmail: SMTP> QUIT fetchmail: SMTP< 221 2.0.0 toccata.grg.afb.net closing connection fetchmail: fetchmail: sleeping at Fim 22.Mar 2001, 17:58:20 EST Also, here is the relavent log vile extract in /var/logs/maillog ... Mar 22 17:58:20 toccata sendmail[2383]: f2MMwK802383: tcpwrappers (localhost, 127.0.0.1) rejection Mar 22 17:58:20 toccata sendmail[2386]: f2MMwK802386: tcpwrappers (localhost, 127.0.0.1) rejection Mar 22 17:58:20 toccata sendmail[2383]: NOQUEUE: localhost [127.0.0.1] did not issue MAIL/EXPN/VRFY/ETRN during connection to MTA Mar 22 17:58:20 toccata sendmail[2396]: f2MMwKB02396: from=root, size=69, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=<200103222258.f2MMwKB02396 at toccata.grg.afb.net>, relay=root at localhost Mar 22 17:58:20 toccata sendmail[2395]: f2MMwKK02395: from=root, size=69, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=<200103222258.f2MMwKK02395 at toccata.grg.afb.net>, relay=root at localhost Mar 22 17:58:20 toccata sendmail[2399]: f2MMwKK02395: to=root, ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=local, pri=30069, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent Mar 22 17:58:29 toccata sendmail[2400]: f2MMwKB02396: to=root, ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=00:00:09, xdelay=00:00:09, mailer=local, pri=30069, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent Mar 22 17:58:51 toccata sendmail[2386]: NOQUEUE: localhost [127.0.0.1] did not issue MAIL/EXPN/VRFY/ETRN during connection to MTA On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, Geoff Shang wrote: > Hi Janina: > > Did you sort out your local fetchmail delivery problem of 3 weeks back? I > had a thought - perhaps your SMTP server is not accepting connections from > localhost, or from wherever it thinks fetchmail is connecting. Just a > thought. Maybe show us the output of "fetchmail -Nv" so we can see what it > thinks the problem is? > > Geoff <who can't remember if this got resolved or not> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Will electronic books surpass print books? 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