I'm not using a smart host at all. I'm not sure exactly how I'm routing--should probably send some messages to check it out, but I'm definitely able to send without a hitch--except when I'm in the office. Whilst I'm in the office, my connection is via eth0 with a 192.168.x.y address, and I'm configured as toccata.grg.afb.net. I think that's a clue as it might be trying to deliver locally--which is where the bottleneck is when I fetchmail. No local delivery. Everything is blocked--according to mail in root it's some kind of port denial. So, I think my problem is all local, not at all with external definitions. PS: I'm using this machine right now and writing you guys with no broblems. There's no smart host, and no smtp definition in the pine config. But I can't fetchmail. Fetchmail looks like it's working perfectly--goes through the list of mail, says it's flushing, etc. It just fails eventually as stuff isn't delivered. If you're curious, I'm snatching my mail over ftp (as a single file from /var/mail/janina on my server at afb.net) and using cat janina >>/var/mail/janina to deliver it to myself. Hokey, but it works. Carmickle wrote: > Hello Chuck Janina and all > > Janina I don't think that is the answer at all. First of all what mailer > are you using Janina? Chuck you are using sendmail correct? > > in your sendmail.cf 'in slack 7.1 now in /etc/mail' previously in /etc > make sure that > Cwlocalhost > #Dj > CP. > DS"your-isp's-smtpserver" > > This is the real ticket. It should work so that your sendmail gathers > mail for you localy and delivers it to the smart host with out > bouncing. In theory this works. I actually did this for six months when > I was using dialup. This should allow you to have a different hostname in > your /etc/HOSTNAME file then what you actually would have when > connected. Janina's situation is a little funny. Because your ISP blocks > port 25 you have to change your smarthost 'DS' evrytime you change from > uu.net dialup to being connected in the office. Not fun at all! Right at > this moment I can't think of a way around this. Blame the people who > block the damn ports. What bastards! > > CO @ % > C.. > C[[ > > > For the most par these should work for you. There may be a few other > things I am missing but for now this is all I can see that will make this > work. > > HTH > Frank > > > Frank Carmickle > phone: 412 761-9568 > email: frankiec at dryrose.com > > On Sun, 4 Mar 2001, Janina Sajka wrote: > > > Try sending a message to root. If that works, specifying users in class l > > shgould work too. > > > > The more I think about this, the more I think defining a hostname--a fully > > qualified hostname is the real answer. > > > > > > On Sun, 4 Mar 2001, Charles Hallenbeck wrote: > > > > > Ummm - not so fast. Using Pine to send local mail via sendmail seemed to > > > work fine at first, but in fact it only worked if I was connected to my > > > ISP. The mail did not go to my ISP, or if it did it came right back > > > without fetchmail, but I had to be connected for it to work anyway. When I > > > forced a hangup and did not activate demand dialing, my local mail thing > > > with pine failed. So - back to the drawing boards. > > > Chuck > > > > > > > > > My web site is http://www.mhonline.net/~chuckh > > > The Moon is Waxing Gibbous (69% of Full) > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) janina at afb.net (202) 408-8175 http://www.afb.org/gov.html The invention of the printing press has been named the crowning achievment of the past millenium. Yet, electronic publishing will soon eclipse it. Read our White Paper: "Surpassing Gutenberg" available at: http://www.afb.org/ebook.html Are you developing software? Make it accessible to blind computer users. Read http://www.afb.org/technology/accessapp.html to learn how.