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I'm not using a smart host at all. I'm not sure exactly how I'm
routing--should probably send some messages to check it out, but I'm
definitely able to send without a hitch--except when I'm in the office.
Whilst I'm in the office, my connection is via eth0 with a 192.168.x.y
address, and I'm configured as toccata.grg.afb.net. I think that's a clue
as it might be trying to deliver locally--which is where the bottleneck is
when I fetchmail. No local delivery. Everything is blocked--according to
mail in root it's some kind of port denial. So, I think my problem is all
local, not at all with external definitions.

PS: I'm using this machine right now and writing you guys with no
broblems. There's no smart host, and no smtp definition in the pine
config. But I can't fetchmail. Fetchmail looks like it's working
perfectly--goes through the list of mail, says it's flushing, etc. It just
fails eventually as stuff isn't delivered.

If you're curious, I'm snatching my mail over ftp (as a single file from
/var/mail/janina on my server at afb.net) and using

	cat janina >>/var/mail/janina

to deliver it to myself. Hokey, but it works.



Carmickle wrote:

> Hello Chuck Janina and all
>
> Janina I don't think that is the answer at all.  First of all what mailer
> are you using Janina?  Chuck you are using sendmail correct?
>
> in your sendmail.cf 'in slack 7.1 now in /etc/mail' previously in /etc
> make sure that
> Cwlocalhost
> #Dj
> CP.
> DS"your-isp's-smtpserver"
>
> This is the real ticket.  It should work so that your sendmail gathers
> mail for you localy and delivers it to the smart host with out
> bouncing.  In theory this works.  I actually did this for six months when
> I was using dialup.  This should allow you to have a different hostname in
> your /etc/HOSTNAME file then what you actually would have when
> connected.  Janina's situation is a little funny.  Because your ISP blocks
> port 25 you have to change your smarthost 'DS' evrytime you change from
> uu.net dialup to being connected in the office.  Not fun at all!  Right at
> this moment I can't think of a way around this.  Blame the people who
> block the damn ports.  What bastards!
>
> CO @ %
> C..
> C[[
>
>
> For the most par these should work for you.  There may be a few other
> things I am missing but for now this is all I can see that will make this
> work.
>
> HTH
> Frank
>
>
>      Frank Carmickle
> phone:     412 761-9568
> email:     frankiec at dryrose.com
>
> On Sun, 4 Mar 2001, Janina Sajka wrote:
>
> > Try sending a message to root. If that works, specifying users in class l
> > shgould work too.
> >
> > The more I think about this, the more I think defining a hostname--a fully
> > qualified hostname is the real answer.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 4 Mar 2001, Charles Hallenbeck wrote:
> >
> > > Ummm - not so fast. Using Pine to send local mail via sendmail seemed to
> > > work fine at first, but in fact it only worked if I was connected to my
> > > ISP. The mail did not go to my ISP, or if it did it came right back
> > > without fetchmail, but I had to be connected for it to work anyway. When I
> > > forced a hangup and did not activate demand dialing, my local mail thing
> > > with pine failed. So - back to the drawing boards.
> > > Chuck
> > >
> > >
> > > My web site is http://www.mhonline.net/~chuckh
> > > The Moon is Waxing Gibbous (69% of Full)
> > >
> > >
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> >
> >
>
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				Janina Sajka, Director
				Technology Research and Development
				Governmental Relations Group
				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

janina at afb.net
(202) 408-8175
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