Hello Chuck Janina and all Janina I don't think that is the answer at all. First of all what mailer are you using Janina? Chuck you are using sendmail correct? in your sendmail.cf 'in slack 7.1 now in /etc/mail' previously in /etc make sure that Cwlocalhost #Dj CP. DS"your-isp's-smtpserver" This is the real ticket. It should work so that your sendmail gathers mail for you localy and delivers it to the smart host with out bouncing. In theory this works. I actually did this for six months when I was using dialup. This should allow you to have a different hostname in your /etc/HOSTNAME file then what you actually would have when connected. Janina's situation is a little funny. Because your ISP blocks port 25 you have to change your smarthost 'DS' evrytime you change from uu.net dialup to being connected in the office. Not fun at all! Right at this moment I can't think of a way around this. Blame the people who block the damn ports. What bastards! CO @ % C.. C[[ For the most par these should work for you. There may be a few other things I am missing but for now this is all I can see that will make this work. HTH Frank Frank Carmickle phone: 412 761-9568 email: frankiec at dryrose.com On Sun, 4 Mar 2001, Janina Sajka wrote: > Try sending a message to root. If that works, specifying users in class l > shgould work too. > > The more I think about this, the more I think defining a hostname--a fully > qualified hostname is the real answer. > > > On Sun, 4 Mar 2001, Charles Hallenbeck wrote: > > > Ummm - not so fast. Using Pine to send local mail via sendmail seemed to > > work fine at first, but in fact it only worked if I was connected to my > > ISP. The mail did not go to my ISP, or if it did it came right back > > without fetchmail, but I had to be connected for it to work anyway. When I > > forced a hangup and did not activate demand dialing, my local mail thing > > with pine failed. So - back to the drawing boards. > > Chuck > > > > > > My web site is http://www.mhonline.net/~chuckh > > The Moon is Waxing Gibbous (69% of Full) > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > >