Hi all, <smile> Naw, you don't *have* to have Vocal-Eyes, I use ASAP and it works fine. What you do need is a good DOS screen reader. Jaws is free now, so is Flipper. Dunnow about ASAP. One caveat I always give to poor newbies who tell me that they've got some so-called technical expert for the blind to install their Windows systems, if the person installing Windows tells you that they are going to remove your DOS screen reader, kill them on the spot! Do not pass go, do not collect $200. If they say they will leave it alone before the knife falls, fine. If they refuse, continue and get another techie. Making a DOS user go to Windows cold turkey is cruel and inhuman treatment. Better yet, go to Gnu/Linux. <grinning> Ann P. -- Ann K. Parsons email: akp at eznet.net ICQ Number: 33006854 WEB SITE: http://home.eznet.net/~akp "All that is gold does not glitter. Not all those who wander are lost." JRRT