Hi Terry, Thanks for the tips. I have been playing with this a little, and have found that netdate works pretty well for me. I put mine in my ip-up script and used the switch -l 0 which makes it just take the time from the first time server to respond. netdate does more complicated things if you let it, but I do not need rocket science accuracy here. Chuck Visit me at http://www.mhonline.net/~chuckh The Moon is Waxing Crescent (21% of Full)