Hi, Geoff: I'll check freshmeat re bell replacements. RE Pine and using the precompiled binaries--they may, in fact, work. But, I'm leary particularly of rpms that aren't specifically Redhat, though using the -iv argument usually keeps nastiness from happening. Main reason, though, is that I want to increase my efficiency in handling mail. If I stay weith Pine, and it is the one I know best, the first step, but only the first step for me, is to change the order of summary information presented in Pine's index screen. I notice that I often judge messages by their subject--e.g., I tend not to join read threads about video programming on my linux lists. So, my first step is to hear this data sooner. My next step is to give myself a hot key that will copy the subject into Pine's search, delete and expunge routines so that I can automate dumping the messages I don't care about. My third step, by the way, will be to hotkey the gravbbing of email addresses from mail and adding them to a procmail kill file. I get about a dozen garbage mail adds daily--sex, get rich quick, etc. Obviously, I can do these things by hand--but that's time consuming. And, in my mind, whenever I find myself repeatedly doing the same series of keyboard procedures, my mind always jumps to the though "automate this, and simplify your life." Janina On Wed, 3 Jan 2001, Geoff Shang wrote: > Hi: > > I've seen a number of bell replacement schemes on freshmeat.net in the > console/sound section. Haven't messed with any of them though so I can't > comment on their effectiveness or lack thereof. > > And you have already been told about the pine indexing stuff so I won't > rehash that. Question though, why can't you use the precompiled linux > binaries on your laptop? Aren't they statically linked? > > Geoff. > > > -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) janina at afb.net (202) 408-8175 http://www.afb.org/gov.html The invention of the printing press has been named the crowning achievement of the past millennium. Yet, electronic publishing will soon eclipse it. Read our White Paper: "Surpassing Gutenberg" available at: http://www.afb.org/ebook.html Are you developing software? Make it accessible to blind computer users. Read http://www.afb.org/technology/accessapp.html to learn how.