To get it into dumb mode edit the file called interfaceModule.C and interfaceModule.h. Do a search for Dumb, change Dumb=0 to 1. At least that is all I did and it seems to really be in dumb mode. It works ok but for backspacing I have to control-h so it's not really worth it to me if I typo. people will have to live with my typos. Also when I /quit I get a segment fault error at the very end. It's a nice start though. If anyone wants to play chatting with me my userid on msn is ragallegos at hotmail.com which is basically my spam address lol. -- Raul A. Gallegos -- Sprint BWG Systems Administration Network Operations Center 9300 Metcalf Ave. Overland Park, KS 66212 Office:913/534.5603 PCS:913/488.3011 mailto:raul.a.gallegos at mail.sprint.com