Hi, Georgina: Thanks for your substantive response. I think it is, in fact, about what I expected. I would agree that more communications could avoid such issues. So, next time, how about we trial potential survey instruments before taking them live? On Tue, 4 Dec 2001, Georgina wrote: > Hi > > Thanks for your comments, perhaps it might have been appropriate to discuss > some of these matters off the list. > > Regarding the school college university question. Here in the UK, school > means under 16 years old. Thus it is a very crude tool about the age of the > user. Plus here in the UK, Redhat are attempting to encourage schools to > use Linux, thus if any of this activity had been filtered to a visually > impaired person, it would show in the survey. I just didn't want to > discriminate according to age. I thought that we had a regular 13 year old > user? This obviously raises the question that a glossary of terms should > have been provided. I'll do it next time. > > On future development. It certainly doesn't suggest that there's any > intention to restrict support in the future, its a "snapshot" of the current > position, nothing more or nothing less. Say, for example, 5 users used > Redhat, 30 users Debian and 100 Slackware and new installation disks needed > to be produced for 2 or all 3 of them, at the same time you have a developer > asking which job needs doing? Thus this is a tool to help in the > prioritising process. Such tools are vital to the efficient progress of all > projects. If we know what the starting line looks like then we can run the > race but if we don't know where it is we've got no chance. > > I hope that the above answers some of your questions. > > Gena > > -----Original Message----- > From: speakup-admin at braille.uwo.ca > [mailto:speakup-admin at braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Janina Sajka > Sent: 03 December 2001 19:44 > To: speakup at braille.uwo.ca > Subject: Re: snapshot speakup survey > > > No problems executing the survey here with lynx 2.8.4rel.1 (17 Jul 2001) > > I don't see much in the way of accessibility issues with this form. I do > have a couple of points, however: > > Link elements should be clearly intelligible on their own--without any > need to access surrounding text. UTRLs labeled "link," for example, are > not good practice. The applicable WAI guideline is intended to support > users who navigate through urls via various browser access technologies > and may not have direct access to the surrounding text in the process; > > The form itself does not validate with HTML Tidy. I did not try > http://validator.w3.org, but would not expect a different result there. > Valid html is, of course, the foundation of good accessibility practices > on web pages, and I believe we should model what we preach as much as > practical; > > In the first question, "Where do you use speakup?," what is meant by > "school" as opposed to "college or university?" In other words, wouldn't > everyone checking off "college or university" also check off "school," > inasmuch as a college or a university is certainly a school by all > accepted usages of English?; > > What, exactly, is this survey supposed to discover? It perports to be > about future developments, but only questions regarding curent use are > asked. Are we to surmise that some users will receive support in the > future, while others will not? Certainly this can't be the case. So, what, > exactly, is this survey supposed to show? > > > -- > > Janina Sajka, Director > Technology Research and Development > Governmental Relations Group > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > http://www.openebook.org > > Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper, > Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.asp > > Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of Martin Luther > King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at > http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp > > Learn how to make accessible software at > http://www.afb.org/accessapp.asp > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Chair, Accessibility SIG Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) http://www.openebook.org Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper, Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.asp Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of Martin Luther King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp Learn how to make accessible software at http://www.afb.org/accessapp.asp
