I have the Richard Stalman files Frank mentioned, and now I need to decode/play them. I also have the relevant tarballs from www.vorbis.org, but they say the version 2.91.xx compilers are bad news for compiling this software. Two questions: 1. Is that true? I have the egcs 2.91.66 compiler, so should I abandon my interest in compiling this stuff before upgrading my compiler? and 2. Can someone direct me to some precompiled binaries to play/decode ogg vorbis formats? Mucho thanks - Chuck Visit me at http://www.mhonline.net/~chuckh The Moon is Waxing Gibbous (76% of Full)