There is a comercial product that can do that if your refering to the junky windows, and not the Linux one. I forget what it is called, but it was described in iether the previous or next to previous issue of the wifiwig news letter from brailleinc.com . Greg On Mon, Aug 27, 2001 at 09:50:58PM -0400, Peter M. Konka wrote: > There was someone that told me that it is possible to take your Windows, > and change it that it is all text. I dont honesly remember who said this > to me, but he said that instead of icons, it turns everything to text > menus or command loines. > > If anyone ever heard of this? Please let me know. Because i'd be very > interested to learn more about it... > > > -- Peter > > At 10:59 AM 8/25/01 -0400, you wrote: > >Charley, > > > >For those who want it easy, we can make it easy. Before windows crashed > >on to the scene, dos was beginning to take a form that did not force > >anyone to know a whole lot about it to drive it and you could even do it > >yourself. I configured several machines such that the first thing that > >was seen was a menu to select what you wanted to do. I even set up > >machines so that you booted directly to dial up or wp. > > > >You already know this though. Well, with shell commands in the boot, we > >can do the same for users of linux who are not into arcana > > > >I am personally into it but still have a lot to learn. > >. > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Charles Crawford" <ccrawford at acb.org> > >To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> > >Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 8:42 AM > >Subject: Re: Hewlet Packard and Linux > > > > > >Well said Rodney and it truly appeals to the programming part of me. I > >guess my concerns are that there are many who just want a computer that > >offers them flexibility without as you say getting under the hood. If > >our > >workplaces, educational institutions, and other main stream parts of > >life > >are off with Windows, then resources get targeted there and a really > >good > >thing gets marginalized. I would be interested to hear from others and > >maybe I am just getting too esoteric? > > > >-- Charlie. > >At 01:32 AM 08/25/2001 -0500, you wrote: > > >Could not agree with you more. In the real world there are mechanics > >who > > >love the joy of building a fine running engine and getting under the > >hood > > >to fine tune it. Then there are most people who could care less what's > > >under the hood as long as it's pretty, it runs and gets them from point > >a > > >to point b. Likewise with Linux. There are those who love to write > > >software without restraints and those who love to configure that > >software > > >to their style and taste. That's the beauty of Linux and the thousands > >of > > >text based programs. Yes every text based program has to be learned > >and > > >configured but that's the fun of it. A blind person can configure > >Linux > > >however he pleases and yes it's a greasy job but at least we'll know > >how > > >to make it run like we want it and not like somebody else tells us how > >it > > >should be. > > >I'm learning the ropes of alsaplayer, freeamp, alsamixer, pmidi, play, > > >sfxload, etc: I'm also learning about the many powerful features of > >the > > >Sound Blaster Live card. I'm able to do things I could never do in > > >Winblows or a stereo player. I can configure these command line > >programs > > >to play whatever songs I want to hear. I can name my files whatever I > > >want to allow for better archiving for easier retrieving. For example > >I > > >just figured out a few minutes ago that I can save my irish bagpipe > >.mp3 > > >files by adding an extra extension to the end of .mp3 like for example > >a > > >song named < sailer's lament.mp3.bp > I added an .bp at the end of > >.mp3 > > >so that when I want to play all my bagpipe mp3 files which may be in my > > >music directory I just simply type freeamp *.mp3.bp and bingo all my > > >bagpipe songs will play until all of the files with the extension bp at > > >the end of .mp3 are finished playing! Now that's the joy of Linux! > >Linux > > >allows me to listen to music in a way that's virtually impossible using > > >Windblows or a fancy expensive stereo equipment. > > >I just thought of another idea while I'm typing and that's the another > > >beauty about Linux if you can think it you can do it. Suppose you have > > >your favorite country music among others. Just add fc to the end of > >the > > >mp3 extension and you can create a script that runs freeamp that allows > > >you just to type myfavoritecountrymusic and bingo all your favorite > > >country music starts up! The possiblity are endless and that's why > >it's > > >hard to find a pre-configured Linux box to do everything like you want > >it > > >because every Linux box is probably configured to that person's taste. > > >We are a Linux community and we share our configurations and ideas with > > >others. It's all about sharing. We will never need the commercialized > > >version of Linux to fit our needs. The blind linux community has all > >the > > >tools we need to share and to explore the endless possiblities. We > >have > > >the tools to make the best speech interface computer this world has yet > >to > > >see. We are just getting started. We have not yet begun to fight. And > >in > > >accordance to a famous line "Give me liberty or give me death!" "Give > >me > > >Linux or give me Windows!" Take your pick. <grin> > > >Rodney > > >The Weaving Beaver > > >rclowdus at kcnet.com > > >"Chop your own firewood and it will warm you twice." > > >"Weave your own cloth and it will reward you twice." > > > > > >On Fri, 24 Aug 2001, Gregory Nowak wrote: > > > > > > > Linux is not a comercial product > > > > in the way that macroslop windows is. > > > > So, I don't think you have anything to worry about. > > > > There will always have to be a text console on a system, and you can > > > edit init scripts > > > > to provent xwindows from starting up. > > > > Greg > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 24, 2001 at 09:33:46PM -0400, Charles Crawford wrote: > > > > > Liz, > > > > > > > > > > I think you are wise to get ahead of the game by doing > >the stuff > > > > > Linux can do without the heartaches of configure configure > >configure. If > > > > > Linux is to make the mainstream or at least a brook, then it has > >to work > > > > > for the average person without too much of the configuring issues. > >I > > > know, > > > > > its kind of plug and play, but why not have our cake and eat it > >too? We > > > > > get the ease of setup and the power of Linux. What's not to > > > like? Smile. > > > > > > > > > > My bigger concern is the Xwindows problem of a repeat of > >what > > > > > Windows did to DOS. > > > > > > > > > > -- Charlie. > > > > > At 04:12 PM 08/24/2001 -0400, you wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >>"no market," but the radical truth is more like "We haven't a > > > > > >>clue of how to get money for it." > > > > > > > > > > > >Forgive a comment from an extreme newbie who doesn't even *have* > > > Linux yet. > > > > > > > > > > > >I've been looking at the companies who make Linux preinstalled > >systems > > > > > >(there's a long list at linux.org), and they seem to have some > >kind of > > > > > >market niche because some of them use hardware that has been > >tested > > > and is > > > > > >known to be Linux-compatible. With the Windoze dominance of the > >entire > > > > > >computing market, it's attractive to me to buy a system whose > >components > > > > > >are known to be compatible with Linux. It seems better than > >ordering > > > > > >elsewhere and not being sure the different parts of the system > >will work > > > > > >well with Linux. > > > > > > > > > > > >any comments or thoughts? > > > > > > > > > > > >Liz > > > > > >Liz Hare, Ph.D. > > > > > >Research Associate > > > > > >Animal Breeding and Genetics Group > > > > > >B47 Morrison Hall > > > > > >Cornell University > > > > > >Ithaca, NY 14853 > > > > > >(607) 255 2380 > > > > > >eh51 at cornell.edu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > > > > >Speakup mailing list > > > > > >Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > > > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Speakup mailing list > > >Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Speakup mailing list > >Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Speakup mailing list > >Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
