Janina, How easy is it to learn Linux? What I mean by this is how long do you think it would take for a "non-Linux" user to learn the basic commands, and how to get around linux with screwein anything up? -- Peter At 10:51 AM 8/25/01 -0400, you wrote: >Charley: > >It really is different in linux, not so much because it's linux, though >that helps a lot, but more because it's open source. Not everything >produced for linux is open source, but the vast majority is. In fact, open >source is the ethos of the linux community. This includes X apps. So, if >there's something that needs a tweak because blind people can't use it the >way it is, we are able to make that tweak. We needn't ask permission. We >needn't beg someone else to put us in their priorities. We can simply open >the source in our favorite editor and fix the code. This kind of activity >is not frowned on, as it is in Microsoft environs, it is welcomed and >encouraged. > >To learn more about this approach to software go to: > > http://www.fsf.org > >Please note that major commercial entities, such as Sun Microsystems, have >bought into this approach. Check out: > > http://www.gnome.org/projects/gap > http://www.openoffice.org > >What I am about to say should not be taken personally. Over and over, we >have seen discussions such as the one currently at hand. People come to >linux from years of struggles with DOS (which is remembered fondly these >days, though it wasn't necessarily friendly either), and Windows (which we >have somewhat conquered but still leaves us unsatisfied). We are like >immigrants in a new land. Our old land didn't offer us 72 varieties of >soap at the grocery store--we were lucky to get any soap at all. So, like >immigrants who simply can't understand why there are 72 varieties of soap >on the shelf, we don't understand the variety and variability inherent in >open source environs. > >Still, we come because we are unsatisfied. So, consider that your linux >experience, at the absolute worst, will be a tremendous learning >experience--like a cultural exchange. At best, it may just feel like >you've been set free in the world of information. Free at last. > >What will not serve you in this new land are all the old ideas and >strategies of coping. This is not Windows, and it isn't even DOS. It's >different--very different. Those rules don't apply here. So, you will be >confused if you try to interact in the old familiar ways. What is >required, rather, is a new attitude. Suspend what you know about Windows >and DOS and learn. I know this isn't easy, but it is the path to >understanding. > > > >On Sat, 25 Aug 2001, Charles Crawford >wrote: > > > Gregory and all, > > > > Thanks for the note about the ability to keep the text of Linux > up despite > > the growing Xwindows. I really do hope that continues since I am a bit gun > > shy after seeing Microsoft slowly killing DOS. As I understand it, you > > can't boot in DOS anymore and I am not even sure the apps will work in the > > new Xp. More tragic in the DOS world is the cintinuing loss of speech > > products for the environment where older speech hardware can't even be > > installed. So we truly have to not only see Linux for what it is now, but > > we must also make sure it remains a place for blind folks to still do our > > thing with an operating system as powerful as it is. > > > > -- charlie Crawford. > > > > > > -- charlie Crawford. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > >-- > > Janina Sajka, Director > Technology Research and Development > Governmental Relations Group > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > >Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > >Chair, Accessibility SIG >Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) >http://www.openebook.org > >Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper, >Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.asp > >Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of Martin Luther >King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at >http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp > >Learn how to make accessible software at >http://www.afb.org/accessapp.asp > > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup