Janina and all, I agree that ACB would not be putting speech on a server located where nobody needs it. I do think however that if we are looking at Linux as an open system as a major selling point and if we are to force consideration of speech interfacing to at least mitigate the damages that can be done by full speed ahead Gui development, then we need to take some advocacy position that gets the attention of companies. While the same points can be made on a relative scale about Microsoft, there is the underlying value of openess to Linux that could easily get lost on our issues if we do not take a more proactive stance. I had for example an exchange of email with the owner of an accessibility software house in which I pointed out that Linux ought to be supported. The answer was no market, and until there is one; not much will happen. So the bottom line is if we want to advance Linux as a solution then it must compete in the mainstream for access as well as other things. Hope this made some sense. -- Charlie.