Ok, firstly about the trippletalk. The manufacturers will not give the specifications unless someone signs a non disclosure agreement, which isn't possible in the opensource world. however, maybe if kirk got his hands on one i'm sure he could figure out how to get one to work. as for your other query, there is zipspeak. i have taken over development of zipspeak, but have not been able to upload to the internet because i'm stuck on a 56 k modem for another 4 weeks. after this it'll be on the net. however, maybe as a one off i can mail you the cd? zipspeak will work if you unzip it to a dos or win9x partition. this'll work with the doubletalk lt. write me privately on ss at saqibshaikh.com if you need more help. saqib