Well you know someone once told me that if your facing a really big problem, go sleep on it and come back to it in the morning/evening. Sure enough they were correct. I sat here lastnight trying to figure out what was not right. I kept looking over the output of my make dep process and it just wouldn't come to me. I had verified that everything was where it aut to be. I then happen to run make menuconfig to make a minor change in anticipation of eventually compiling a kernel. Well that process wouldn't work either. Seems it couldn't find ncurses. So, then I just knew something was amiss. I fired-up the one spare brain cell I have and looked at ld.so.conf and sure enough there was only one line. It was pointing to /usr/X11R6/libs so I added two more lines, /usr/lib and /lib. Not sure if /lib is redundant and perhaps someone could shed some light on that or if there's any other directories I aut to be referencing in that file. I then ran ldconfig and attempted my make menuconfig which worked then finally make dep which as of this minute looks to have gone well. I suspect the rest should go well. I guess before I posted my msg, I should have just kept hacking and hacking at the problem. I've never had to worry about kernels not compiling cause some lib was lost, but it pays to really look at the problem and just think about what could be wrong. Sorry for wasting the bw. It really does pay to try and hack the problem yourself first, but I have to admitt that lastnight I simply had no clue where to find the answer. I think stepping away a while helps to clear the mind and get things back into perspective. I had enough problems for one day so at 11:30 pm its was time to quit. Glad I did. --- Scott Linux, when you need a real os.